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Message started by raz on 10/19/09 at 01:06:57

Title: fuel usage display
Post by raz on 10/19/09 at 01:06:57
How is the liter/hour display calculated? Is it based on the injectors' nominal 270 cc/min? If I cruise at 100 km/h it should obviously match the mileage as in l/100 km but it seems to always read significantly lower. Maybe that indicates my deadtime (InjVOn) figures are set too high? I still haven't got around to verify those dreaded deadtimes though I would love to know.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by YaBB Administrator on 10/19/09 at 16:57:17
That was a fudge from the start. I've been thinking about redoing it lately.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by raz on 10/21/09 at 09:25:27
I just tried applying 270cc/min to some known cruising data (rpm and effective pw) and that ended up way better than I expected. Could it be that simple? I didn't really expect the nominal figure to be that easily usable.

I have never had any success in finding a nominal flow figure for the V10 though. Anyway it should be configurable of course.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by _Cliff_ on 10/21/09 at 09:27:58
Can you provide a bit more detail to your calculation.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by raz on 10/21/09 at 11:03:09
No magic whatsoever:

270 cc/min nominal flow rate of injectors

Average data from 3 minutes cruising:
94 km/h
3759 rpm
4554 us final pulsewidth excl. deadtime

the rpm should be divided by two but we also have two cylinders, so

3759 * 4554 / 1000000 = 17.12 seconds total injector open per minute

(17.12 / 60) * 270 = 77.03 cc/min

77.03 * 60 / 1000 = 4.62 l/h

At 94 km/h that is ~ 4.92 l/100 km which sounds just about right. I don't know what the Optimiser would have said at the time though.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by _Cliff_ on 10/21/09 at 12:01:23
Thanks for that. I'll get that in for the next release.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by raz on 10/21/09 at 19:48:50
I found a nominal flow figure for the IW724 (Centauro/Daytona/MGS01) injectors. But it's rated at another fuel pressure, 285 cc/min @2.25 bar. I think that could be translated to 330 cc/min @3 bar but I'm on thin ice here. As usual.

EDIT: Found another figure that says 308 cc/min, unknown pressure. And yet other claims that it has the same flow as the IW031 used in the 2V 1100's... seems I'm not the only one on thin ice.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by jocke on 10/21/09 at 22:36:35

raz wrote on 10/21/09 at 19:48:50:
I found a nominal flow figure for the IW724 (Centauro/Daytona/MGS01) injectors. But it's rated at another fuel pressure, 285 cc/min @2.25 bar. I think that could be translated to 330 cc/min @3 bar but I'm on thin ice here. As usual.

EDIT: Found another figure that says 308 cc/min, unknown pressure. And yet other claims that it has the same flow as the IW031 used in the 2V 1100's... seems I'm not the only one on thin ice.



The fuel flow will increase with the square root of the pressure increase.

3 bar is 33,3% higher then 2,25 bar. 33,3% pressure increase = 15,47% more fuel.

15,47% more fuel is 329,1 cc/min

As a good info for pressure increase vs flow increase.

+10% = +4,8%
+25% = +11,8%
+50% = +22,5%

Jocke.......

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by _Cliff_ on 12/18/09 at 08:05:56
I've just added Raz's suggested method to the latest Optimiser firmware.

Title: Re: fuel usage display
Post by raz on 06/07/10 at 06:23:32
It's a little hard to tell, but I think it's much better now. Cruising at about 100 km/h shows around 0.5 l/h. My actual average is closer to 0.6 so I think it's a fair reading.

Edit: Of course I mean around 5.0 l/h and my average is just below 6 l/100 km. We actually have something that could be called a "Swedish mile" though it's spelled "mil" and pronounced like meal. And it's exactly 10 kms, so in Swedish, we'd say 0.6 l/mil which equals 6 l/100 km. Hence my confusion  :)

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