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Message started by Rasser on 04/09/10 at 17:58:41

Title: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by Rasser on 04/09/10 at 17:58:41
Hi All,
I got my MyP8 mini some months ago. Only just getting started after re-wiring all ECU connections/wires and changing a few other components on my 907, -92 (115Kkm).

I want to install two lambda sensors. I am welding in the bungs this week and want to get started, but getting confused from the various info found here and elsewhere about narrow, not exactly wideband and true wideband sensors. Narrow and wideband I understand and I want to buy two wideband sensors.
Then I find that the 4-wire types are not true wideband: Is that true?
If so, will using the true wideband, with 5-wires as I understand it (?), be a better option and worth the extra cost, because as stated somewhere, this will have to come with its own electronics to which the lambda's will be connected and the signal from that box (e.g. the Innovate LM1 system?) will then be connected to the 3-pin plug in the MyP8 mini? Meaning that I cannot just buy the 5-wire types and connect directly getting the full benifit of the functionallity, right?

I have had some trouble pairing the BT. What is the correct no. for pairing?

With Windows mobile 6.1, how to log to the ECU? and will there be an option to run the ECU Controller?

I know this might be a lot to ask, but Spring is nearer and I am looking forward to get the old Duc on the road.

Regs
Per
(Rasser)
Copenhagen, DK.

Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by YaBB Administrator on 04/09/10 at 20:35:21
The LC-1 would be more cost effective.
The BT name and pin are part of the map. The standard pin is either 111111 or 123456

Did I give you the WM version of the ECUController. I can't recall.

Logging is mentioned here - http://cajinnovations.com/yabb0/YaBB.pl?num=1259021099


Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by Rasser on 04/10/10 at 19:12:22
Hi,
No, I did not get the WM version at the time.
I have been connected with my std laptop, but did not record the i.d. at the time. I can see on the product's homepage they mention 0000 as the i.d. I will try next week as my bike is not at my home, but at my place of work.
The last try was with another laptop. After trying many numbers it did connect and stayed on for some time. When it lost the communication it was impossible to connect again.
Maybe this laptop had some problems.

So, just for me to be sure, using the LC-1, will require or me to buy two LC-1's and connect to MyP8, right?

Not worried about the cost (as such) just want to get it right when I am at it.
(I have changed the wiring as mentioned, and over the last 12 months changed: Fuel pump, coils, ign.modules, crank and cam sensors, have injectors hecked and cleaned, hoses and the ECU!)

I do understand most of what is discussed here, but do feel green when it comes to translating it to be used for real on my bike. Guess I need to spend some more time with it.

Per

Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by Rasser on 04/10/10 at 19:21:24
Hi,
One more thing, do this one from MM Competition look to be usable or would you still recommend the LC-1. I do not have the price o the MM one using the NGK sensor.

http://www.magneti-marelli.com/download_zone/4_fuel_parts/EFi_UEGO_01.pdf

Per

Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by YaBB Administrator on 04/10/10 at 21:18:47
That sensor looks ok. I'd be surprise if anything from MM would be competitively priced.

Unless you are going for racetrack performance, one is more than enough.

0000 is the factory default pin. MyECU overides this on powerup. Unless you set another in the map it is most probably one of the 2 I mentioned.

Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by Rasser on 04/11/10 at 00:48:50
Hi. got that.
Now, the thing is that I have bungs welded into both header pipes. Using "only" one LC-1, it could be installed at the front or rear cylinder, or would it be better to locate a position at the collector tubing under the engine to fit it?

If I decide to install two LC-1's, not that I am looking for race track performance, just a well running bike, is there anything in particular I should be aware off?

About the LC-1, I reccon it is the Analog #2 output that goes to the 3-pin connector in MyP8 mini, right?

Thanks for all help.

Per

PS: Anyone having a 907 - well proven - map they would let me try?

Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by raz on 04/11/10 at 21:12:27

Rasser wrote on 04/11/10 at 00:48:50:
Using "only" one LC-1, it could be installed at the front or rear cylinder, or would it be better to locate a position at the collector tubing under the engine to fit it?

Reading just one cylinder is better, otherwise you will get staggering issues. I would put it on the cylinder that is generally considered needing the richest mixture (the rear cylinder I suppose). When you have a good map showing little real time correction, you can temporarily move the sensor to the other cylinder and double check.


Rasser wrote on 04/11/10 at 00:48:50:
About the LC-1, I reccon it is the Analog #2 output that goes to the 3-pin connector in MyP8 mini, right?

Analog 2 can be used with default LC-1 settings. You can of course use analog 1 if you program it to a sane range.

Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by YaBB Administrator on 04/12/10 at 08:44:34
I like to keep things simple so I run the LC1 in factory default mode. A user programmed curve doesn't add anything for MyECU. On reason to program it is if you want to add an independent meter to it.

Title: Re: Lambda and Bluetooth
Post by greenmonster on 04/12/10 at 21:20:58

Quote:
PS: Anyone having a 907 - well proven - map they would let me try?


You got PM w my mail adr.

Can`t say my map is a 100% correct nor that it works perfect on other 907`s but works f me.

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