I installed my15m in my prototype with engine Ducati Hypermotard.
The starter motor of the Hypermotard is different from other engines Ducati, the engine run much more slowly.
I have seen my15m no spark on the spark plug, the problem may be that the engine is running too slowly?
Thanks

I can't imagine it being that slow.
You mention it not working with the Optimiser. Perhaps there is another issue with the ECU

I know you were doing quite a bit of modification of the map up front. I suggest loading the map I sent you with the ECU until you get the bike started and keep the bike on the charger.
Also make sure you use the ECUController that I sent you at the time and not the one you use for the MyP8

The unit works if I install on my Ducati St2. ECU controller works perfectly.

If I install the original ECU of ducati st2 (with modified eprom) in the hypermotard engine starts perfectly

Ok.

If you thoroughly warm the bike with the OEM ECU then try mine then I can't see how the starting will be too slow.

You should compare the schematics on the 2 to see if there are any differences  that may explain it. Different pin outs?

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The unit works if I install on my Ducati St2. ECU controller works perfectly.

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If I install the original ECU of ducati st2 (with modified eprom) in the hypermotard engine starts perfectly

1. Makes sense since ST2 has a WM 1.6.
2. A bit puzzled, doesn`t HM have a 5.9?

Have you made a custom wiring?

I was wrong. I have a My16m. In my prototype I have the electrical system of ST2.
You ave myp8 for 907i.e. paso?
Can you give me your map that I feel about my myp8 of my elefant 900 ie?
Thanks

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In my prototype I have the electrical system of ST2.

Do the 1100 engine have same sensors f RPM & engine position?

Do you have HM throttlebodies & injectors?
Injectors are different from ST2.
What is the pressure from your fuel pump regulator?

I have a 907 w MyP8.


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Can you give me your map that I feel about my myp8 of my elefant 900 ie?

Could you clarify question?

The engine has a u-pick only.
The injection is a Ducati 916, but the connectors are the same.
The fuel pressure at the moment is standard 3 bar.
For the moment the only problem is that the potentiometer is the same as the Paso and is not intended for My16m. But my problem is that it does spark.

I have already mounted this engine on his Ducati SS wife. ST2 simplified electrical system and ECU 16m.
On my bike I want to use My16m.

I am sorry not to be very clear but I use a translator

I asked if I have your program myp8 for testing in my Cagiva Elefant 900

I think you mean doesn't spark. That's what you said earlier.

I don't know what you mean by a u-pick. My16M needs to have the 48-2 toothed cam wheel.

When you have both plugs on the heads, you see no sparks at all?
Is your MyECU a kit?

I use a coil and a plug. We tried two plug on the track and do not need.
Yes, my ECU was in the kit.

I checked the values​​.
The pressure is not correct.
The oil temperature and the air temperature when the bike is cold are not equal, there is much difference.
Looking at the computer, I see half-throttle the cursor is already in the fully open position.
Is possible that the Ducati sensors I use are different?

But it is curious that with all these problems my part ST2 safely

The throttle value can look weird when trying it with engine off, because of throttle pump emulation. But the temps should be within a couple of degrees if actual temp is the same. How much do they differ? What does the pressure read?

Here's a thread about pressure sensor:
http://cajinnovations.com/yabb0/YaBB.pl?num=1272837763

Sorry,
but for me it is hard to understand you.

Can you get some help w your English to explain your problems?
All translators I`ve used has been horrible when it comes to detailed descriptions.

As Raz points out, ignore the throttle issue.
Do you see the air pressure and temperature errors on the ST2 also. What are the readings.

Thanks. I solved the problem of pressure and I changed the type of air temperature sensor and now everything is ok.
the problem is always that of the spark plug

I do not understand why I can not change the page parameters "Adjust map. "
I wanted to change "throttle range" but you can not, why?

The throttle and RPM breaks are done in "Global map adjust" but you should not be doing any such change until you get the bike running.

What type of engine timing pickup does this bike have?

Is bosch with three wires

The gap from the sensor to the cam wheel is important. It's normally got a shim. If too large the signal level may be to low

The problem is the pick-up.
The pick-up of the Hypermotard is different. I spoke with a mechanic and he told me that these new ones are less sensitive.
Cliff, what should I change to give more input sensitivity of Myecu?
Thanks.

p.s.  this is the namber bosch of pick-up: 281 002 191

http://seekpart24.com/bosch/sensor-crankshaft-pulse-281002191?c=100249

You could try reducing the clearance or how about swapping out the sensor from the other bike for a quick test.

Also is the pickup over the same type of wheel.

I can not reduce the distance because there are no spacers.
The wheel is like any other, as I said with IAW 1.6 everything worked properly.
I can not replace the sensor because the "old" ducati st2 is much longer ...

Do you have an oscilloscope? We really need to see how short of the mark the signal is before we can figure out the best way forward.

I don't think there is much we can do to boost the signal in the My16M.

I did these tests:
I did a thickness sensor st2 and I mounted that, but the controller still does not.
I think the problem is the location.
st2 sensor sees the gear teeth to the side, and sees the big teeth.
Hypermotard sensor sees the gear teeth from above, and sees only the tip of the teeth.
I hope it was clear

Its either signal level or the type of wheel used.

So how many teeth does it have and how big is the synch gap?

I'm sorry to be unclear. The wheel is the same as all the ducats, equal to Ducati ST2. the difference is the place to read the pick-up.
View Photos 1.
This is the position of reading ducati st2.
In the picture 2 is the reading position of the Hypermotard.
The positions are different but the wheel and 'always the same .....

I can not enter the picture, you send them by e-mail

Ok understood.

Then it seems most likely that its the signal level from the sensor.
You said this was a different type of pickup
Is there a possibility of getting one like that used by the ducatis or guzzis.

The voltage level increases with engine speed.
If we can get it spinning fast enough.
For test purposes
Try warming the bike thoroughly with the other ECU and have the battery on a charger.

You could also try clutch starting

I tried to change the pick-up to Guzzi, but nothing changes.
I think the reading is different because the position of the sensor is different.
Why IAW1, 6 does not see this problem?

I think you should count the teeth of the wheel to verify it is 48 ( minus 2 for the gap)

Look at these pictures.
The photo st2, is one in which the pick-up of the Ducati ST2 and Guzzi.
The photo Hypermotard is one in which the pick-up of the Ducati Hypermotard.
As you can see, the metal sensor to read the Hypermotard is much less, is just the tip of the tooth.
It 'clear? this may be the only problem. As I wrote several times, everything else is equal, and with the ECM 1.6 motor runs, then the problem may just be reading the myecu.

I can not enter the picture, you send them by e-mail

There's not much that can be done to increase the sensitivity. You might boost it maybe 10% but unless you can compare the signals with an oscilloscope we're only guessing thats the problem.

The other thing you mention is speed. How slow does it turn.

Have you tried bump starting? That would get past both of these potential issues.

Just had another idea.
How is the voltage while cranking? Voltage dips may cause the ECU to reset and thus not sync.
You have the MkIII which has the voltage booster. Check it is operational by looking at the voltage in to the regulator. You should see it is greater than the battery.

sorry, I have to check the voltage regulator of the motor or the myecu?
how do I check that the myecu?

I do not know how to start the engine faster, the battery is full and powerful

Well the bike's regulator doesn't really come into it when cranking does it. ::)

Pin 1 of the 7805 is the input. Pin 3 is the output - 5V
You should see 14-15V when the battery is 12V.

Have you try clutch starting yet?

In the pin1, i ave 19volt and in the starting i ave 17volt, and 5volt in the out.

I do not understand "Have you try starting clutch yet?"

Clutch start, push start, etc. I've mentioned it a few times already.

19v?

Cliff, is there any possability that he could have the same problem that I did?

Pete

Was your problem with the ECU seeing a high voltage and not injecting? That's a different issue.

Seeing a high voltage here is correct.

Remember the most important thing, myecu1.6 on my ducati st2 work.
It can not be a internal problem of myecu.