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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #45 - 11/26/10 at 06:37:49

Something not quite right with the XP. You should be getting the longer lines.

Yes : is needed in specifying the port.

This page talks about the protocol.
http://www.cajinnovations.com/MyECU/My16M_Comm_protocol.html

You should see 3 different lines being repeated.

You can use hyperteminal to record the data.

Just as an experiment try ECUController 143. You can just modify the original link I gave.

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #46 - 11/26/10 at 09:25:27

WO wrote on 11/25/10 at 23:50:13:

Generally, what does the data look like? I have some RS232 port monitoring software somewhere that I may try to find.

Like this:
=3123E02BD4900040000000000040000000414056B
=00EE101FE03FE03DB01F7012D01E901D0
=112000016631915D33000000000000017605D007E
=3123E02BD4900040000000000040000000414056B
=00EE101FE03FE03DB01F7012D01E901D0
=112000016631915D33000000000000017605D007E
=3123E02BD4900040000000000040000000414056B
=00EE101FE03FE03DB01F7012D01E901D0
=112000016631915D33000000000000017605D007E
=3123E02BD4900040000000000040000000414056B
=00EE101FE03FE03DB01F7012D01E901D0
=112000016631915D33000000000000017605D007E

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #47 - 11/26/10 at 11:06:44

Quote:

Yes : is needed in specifying the port.

My home PC: Dell w XP SP3.
Have a Mini P8 w Bluetooth.

W both 150 & 150, I open ECUControl Config to check that the : are there.
It`s not, add it, close window.
Reopen, : is not there!
If I do something else first & reopen, no : .

In 143, : is there all the time.

Could there be a bug?

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #49 - 11/27/10 at 10:28:35

Trying to translate Cliff (again................)
for us lesser gifted.........

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I tidied it up with v150.

Does that mean all I wrote above is wrong/cannot have happend?!?!?
What did you tidy up,
software for 150 and therefore the problem I described wont happend anymore?!?!?

Version 150 I got from Dk Mini owner & 151 I got from raz.

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YaBB Administrator YaBB Administrator Offline I love YaBB! Posts: 679 The Land of YaBB	Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU Reply #50 - 11/27/10 at 12:57:07 I really fail to see how my comment contradicts or validates what you say. You must be reading between the lines. I could see how the : could confuse things before so with 150 I removed the need for it. You can add it or not. The ECUController will ignore it.
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greenmonster Full Member Offline Sweden Posts: 196	Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU Reply #51 - 11/27/10 at 21:21:42 Quote: I could see how the : could confuse things before so with 150 I removed the need for it. You can add it or not. The ECUController will ignore it. Thank you, perfect explanation, I didn`t get that from "tidied it up". That answer was too short and didn`t have enough info. Maybe perfecly clear f you but not f others.
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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #52 - 11/30/10 at 02:35:38

_Cliff_ wrote on 11/26/10 at 06:37:49:

Something not quite right with the XP. You should be getting the longer lines.

Yes : is needed in specifying the port.

This page talks about the protocol.
http://www.cajinnovations.com/MyECU/My16M_Comm_protocol.html

You should see 3 different lines being repeated.

You can use hyperteminal to record the data.

Just as an experiment try ECUController 143. You can just modify the original link I gave.

Cliff - The link you provided is for the 16M and I have a 15M. Please confirm that all information regarding protocols is the same.

Also, please provide a link to the ECUController 143 software that you referenced. I'm not sure how to modify the link to download a copy.

The 143 software may work, but as you can tell I've followed the core instructions and even attempted communication via two PCs with the recommended configurations ('98 with naive serial/RS232, XP with a USB-to-serial port adapter).

At this point...I think I really need a structured list of troubleshooting steps. Please review the recent post by both me and WO and outline a plan. I'm hopeful that with your help I can overcome this communication hurdle and actually see MyECU work.

Thanks!

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #53 - 11/30/10 at 05:11:18

It is the same for the My15M.

http://www.cajinnovations.com/ECUControl143.exe.zip
or
http://www.cajinnovations.com/ECUControl143.exe

The win98 PC sounds closest to working so you should stick with that one.

Serial comms has always been a pain but it isn't rocket science.
I'm at a loss as to what you're missing given that the 2 way comms test appears to be working.
I think if you throw a bunch of characters at the ECU with hyperterminal then hit enter. It should come back with inv cmd and an echo of what you sent. You can use that to see if it see the right data.

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #54 - 02/23/11 at 03:34:53

Cliff,

It's been a few months and I finally have time to work on this project again. And at this point...I truly mean project.

As a refresher, I attempted to connect to MyECU using your software with two different computers.

A) One year old HP laptop running XP and using a USB to serial port adapter.
B) An older HP laptop running Windows '98 with a native RS232 port.

Both the USB to serial port adapter and the RS232 port adapter have proven to work on other programs and applications, specifically VDSTS software designed to tune motorcycles.

A friend and I configured everything as you suggested for both laptops, using your manual/instructions, but was never able to make proper communications with MyECU. You told me that the computer running Windows '98 seemed to be closer to making a connection...so keep trying with it. The last suggestion was to use an older version of your software, v143. In this thread you mentioned that modifications/updates to the software in v150 may be causing some communications issues. Really?

If I have two laptops that meet the best specifications for good communications, and both are configured according to your preferences, but neither one works I have to consider the problem could also be within the ECU. Of course it could be an issue of matching the right version of your software to the specific combination of computer port, operating system, and cabling method, so maybe I need a detailed matrix to crack the code? Just kidding...but I'm halfway serious.

I'll reach out to my friend to see if he will let me borrow his Windows 98 computer and cabling. If so I'll give it another shot. With this in mind, please tell me exactly how everything should be configured using the v143 software.

If this doesn't work I plan to ship the ECU to someone on the board and see if they can download a file with their computer setup.

Thanks again for your help and I look forward to your instructions.

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #55 - 02/23/11 at 04:11:06

It's 32F (0C) in my garage right now, so I am not inclined to go out there and play with MyECU, but if it would help, I can send you my Keyspan USB-232 converter to try. I have used it successfully with WinXP SP2, and Linux running a Windows emulator (Wine) on a Compaq Presario which is setup for dual boot, and the v1.50 software. Send me a message with your email address and we can make arrangements.

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YaBB Administrator YaBB Administrator Offline I love YaBB! Posts: 679 The Land of YaBB	Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU Reply #56 - 02/23/11 at 05:03:28 You may be right. It should take that much effort to get it to talk. Send me the ECU and I'll check it out for you for just the postage cost. Send the Optimiser also if you have one and I'll upgrade you to the latest also. My addess details are CAJ Innovations P.O. Box 310 West Pennant Hills NSW 2125 Australia
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Reply #57 - 02/23/11 at 08:45:51

Here's where I have to make a confession, that maybe can help.

Note: I'm not suggesting that anyone else is as big an idiot as I am, just offering this for consideration. I bought the kit version and assembled it, soldered everything up and with some help got it going.

I'd never really looked at the network connector card too closely aside from soldering the cap's. The chip was installed.

I incorrectly assumed the chip was soldered in (no, I don't know why I'd thought that would be the one thing you soldered in for me). It wasn't until I had connection problems that I found it was just inserted and not soldered.

I'm also using two computers, one running XP and another Vista. Both of the computers are quite fussy about how they are connected to the ECU. I have to power down the computer, hook up the cabling, regardless of whether it's via usb adapter or serial port, boot up the computer, software, and then turn on the ignition.

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #58 - 03/04/11 at 05:37:34

YaBB Administrator wrote on 02/23/11 at 05:03:28:

You may be right. It should take that much effort to get it to talk. Send me the ECU and I'll check it out for you for just the postage cost. Send the Optimiser also if you have one and I'll upgrade you to the latest also.

My addess details are
CAJ Innovations
P.O. Box 310
West Pennant Hills
NSW
2125
Australia

Cliff - Thanks for the offer! I shipped you the ECU, Optimizer, and RS232-to-ethernet adapter today.

Also, I plan to email you a map that I would like to have downloaded to the ECU before you send it back to me. One of the board members, Gerry Lynn, sent me a map that he's modified and tweaked over time for a Moto Guzzi California which seems to be working really well for him. I'm not sure if he started with a baseline map from you, or came up with it on his own? Regardless, it's where I where I would like to start my tuning adventure once everything is working correctly. If this map is in the ballpark, maybe I'll be able to perform any potential minor adjustments needed using Optimizer?

Thanks once again and please post a note once you've received and tested everything.

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Re: Newbie with a 15M MyECU
Reply #59 - 03/22/11 at 02:24:32

Here's an update for all of you following along.

I shipped the ECU and Optimiser back to Cliff. At this point he's tested the ECU and experienced the same communications problems I had noticed between the ECU and a laptop. Cliff indicated this was the first time he had seen one of his ECU's act this way...but at least it's good to know we're on the same page for diagnosing the problem.

Since then Cliff has graciously shipped me a successfully upgraded and tested ECU, and Optimiser, which I should receive some time this week. This weekend I'll be able to plug it in and maybe tinker around with it using either the Optimiser or a laptop. The friend of mine who has two laptops, that I mentioned previously in this thread, "might" be able to offer some assistance at some point but we'll see. It's a considerable coordination effort for the two of us to get together, and I hate to impose and take up someone's afternoon to fiddle around with tuning my bike.

So today my simple goal is to put the unit on my bike and be able to confirm a successfully working ECU, laptop software, and computer connection. ...Finding the perfect tune can come with time.

I'll post again once I've tried everything out.

Thanks Cliff!

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